Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID)

[sonyamanning]

I've been clearing up my first boout of PID with antibiotics and multiple trips to my doctor. I'm also a holistic healer (not by profession or anything) but I believe in natural things to help your body. So mid morning today, after my carrot/beet juice, I was reading something about garlic (especially raw) having wonderful antibacterial properties. Voila. Interesting, I thought and went down to get a clove and proceeded to eat half of it. This burned my esophogus as it went down but i could tell it was a good pain, a cleansing burn. The problem was the pain wasn't in my esophogus it was in my cervix/uterus area.
I've been on and off antibiotics for three months now and my PID just can't seem to totally go away. I'll get almost there, to the point of thinking I'm cured. Be off the antibiotic for a couple of days and gurgle gurgle gurgle.. there it is again. The doctors have been less that simpathetic about this all suggesting that I might be just stressed out or imagining this or something, even though one of them observed my cervix looking like a strawberry two days earlier, strange discharge, and was told about the unprotected sex that started it, and my past chlamydia exposure. But anyway...
I was thinking as I held the clove in my hand that I really wanted to put it where the pain was ie. in my vagina. I thought about it and after hesitating for a few minutes remembered a book I read about curing pin worms and sticking a clove in your anus over night. So I thought if you can put it in there, why not put it in the other? I did and literally an hour later (with it in there still) I feel sooo much better. The swelling/bloated feeling has gone down. The achy throbbing in my cerix and other areas has subsided. Try it, you'll like it.
I also looked this up on the internet and turns out it is a common practice for people trying to cure all kinds of ailments such as vaginitis, and yeast infections, and has been used for centuries. Good health to all of you. Sonya

[katty1]

[quote="sonyamanning"]I've been clearing up my first boout of PID with antibiotics and multiple trips to my doctor. I'm also a holistic healer (not by profession or anything) but I believe in natural things to help your body. So mid morning today, after my carrot/beet juice, I was reading something about garlic (especially raw) having wonderful antibacterial properties. Voila. Interesting, I thought and went down to get a clove and proceeded to eat half of it. This burned my esophogus as it went down but i could tell it was a good pain, a cleansing burn. The problem was the pain wasn't in my esophogus it was in my cervix/uterus area.
I've been on and off antibiotics for three months now and my PID just can't seem to totally go away. I'll get almost there, to the point of thinking I'm cured. Be off the antibiotic for a couple of days and gurgle gurgle gurgle.. there it is again. The doctors have been less that simpathetic about this all suggesting that I might be just stressed out or imagining this or something, even though one of them observed my cervix looking like a strawberry two days earlier, strange discharge, and was told about the unprotected sex that started it, and my past chlamydia exposure. But anyway...
I was thinking as I held the clove in my hand that I really wanted to put it where the pain was ie. in my vagina. I thought about it and after hesitating for a few minutes remembered a book I read about curing pin worms and sticking a clove in your anus over night. So I thought if you can put it in there, why not put it in the other? I did and literally an hour later (with it in there still) I feel sooo much better. The swelling/bloated feeling has gone down. The achy throbbing in my cerix and other areas has subsided. Try it, you'll like it.
I also looked this up on the internet and turns out it is a common practice for people trying to cure all kinds of ailments such as vaginitis, and yeast infections, and has been used for centuries. Good health to all of you. Sonya[/quote]Sonia - if you dont mind me saying garlic is not going to cure PID or any STD and its really a bit dangerous to be placing it in the vagina I mean cloves of garlic!! if your placing things in the vagina like garlic cloves ect even tea tree and swollowing or eating lots of garlic it will give you some irrititation and cause discharge . I can imagine potential accidents and trip to a and e with garlic cloves lost inside the vagina . I think you were talking about "thread worms here too also on that the best thing for a person who has worms is to get medicine of dr as a clove in the anus wont kill them in the bowel or the tummy and again is not really advisable .id just go and see a gyne lady ..if you can .

Cathy

[sonyamanning]

There is a direct relation between the environment in your mouth and the one in your vagina. "They" recommend you eat yogurt during a yeast infection not because it's going to go through your whole body, especially the harsh environment of your stomach and then find it's way into your vagina, but because in your mouth it absorbs.
I don't have an STD, I had bacterial Vaginosis which caused PID. I had chlamydia 1 year ago for 6 months before my annual PAP caught it, and was treated for it with an antibiotic. In my earlier posts I had thought I had chlamydia again (common cause of PID, and easier to catch once you've had it) even though I tested negative for it later. I thought that was the reason I had PID because I was treated with an antibiotic (in a foriegn country) before I was tested for any STD's. I thought maybe it had killed that but left me with other bacteria? and the PID?? I didn't know, and because my doctors WERE NOT GIVING ME ANY ANSWERS for what caused this, just ordered more tests and loaded me up with antibiotics (which hardly worked) for three months I was forced to research.
Vaginal inserts have been the only thing to work for me, for this infection which started IN MY VAGINA.
It does not seem dangerous to me to put something that I would put IN MY MOUTH, IN MY VAGINA.
I was talking about Pin worms (I don't know if they're the same thing) and how do you know it doesn't work? Have you tried it?
How do you know garlic will give me some discharge and irritation. Have you tried that? I have and today the final swelling and bloating that was in my vagina yesterday is almost COMPLETELY GONE.
I can feel the bacteria that has been trapped in my body for 3 MONTHS while I went to doctors leaving. I am sweating, and getting that feeling that I have sometimes gotten with antibiotics when the bacteria is dying and releasing toxins. Good health to you.

[katty1]

[quote="sonyamanning"]There is a direct relation between the environment in your mouth and the one in your vagina. "They" recommend you eat yogurt during a yeast infection not because it's going to go through your whole body, especially the harsh environment of your stomach and then find it's way into your vagina, but because in your mouth it absorbs.
I don't have an STD, I had bacterial Vaginosis which caused PID. I had chlamydia 1 year ago for 6 months before my annual PAP caught it, and was treated for it with an antibiotic. In my earlier posts I had thought I had chlamydia again (common cause of PID, and easier to catch once you've had it) even though I tested negative for it later. I thought that was the reason I had PID because I was treated with an antibiotic (in a foriegn country) before I was tested for any STD's. I thought maybe it had killed that but left me with other bacteria? and the PID?? I didn't know, and because my doctors WERE NOT GIVING ME ANY ANSWERS for what caused this, just ordered more tests and loaded me up with antibiotics (which hardly worked) for three months I was forced to research.
Vaginal inserts have been the only thing to work for me, for this infection which started IN MY VAGINA.
It does not seem dangerous to me to put something that I would put IN MY MOUTH, IN MY VAGINA.
I was talking about Pin worms (I don't know if they're the same thing) and how do you know it doesn't work? Have you tried it?
How do you know garlic will give me some discharge and irritation. Have you tried that? I have and today the final swelling and bloating that was in my vagina yesterday is almost COMPLETELY GONE.
I can feel the bacteria that has been trapped in my body for 3 MONTHS while I went to doctors leaving. I am sweating, and getting that feeling that I have sometimes gotten with antibiotics when the bacteria is dying and releasing toxins. Good health to you.[/quote]Im certainly not going to reply to you anymore if your going to come on using F word and being argumentative i have a feeling i know who you are . Regarding your worms - which ive never had - this is a PID forum and i think you should respect the fact that there are ladies reading who are currently seeing thier doctors or in and out of hospital with a serious condition . The reason you had PID was because you had Chlamydia and if you use a condom you will prevent getting another sti . Im sure you were asking on a previous post what antibiotics are used for PID which i did reply so i assume you havent taken them . You stated you had a fever and said placing things in vagina has cured PID im afraid not ..it might help thrust yogurt but placing Cloves of anything in the anus or vagina is not recommended by any dr or hospital .

I did posts on nutritional suppliments for PID if you care to look at them and talked about garlic in food and capsuals but obviously you didnt read it . Peroxyide or any other solution in vagina whilst suffering nfrom PID is not the thing to do ..i was pleasant and wished you luck and said a visit to a Professional would be the best thing to do . BV is very common and using a medicine designed to treat that not a turkey baster wher you are introducing bacteria into the vagina in which case i would be most surprised that infection would not take hold. Wilst i respect everyones opinions on the board it is offensive to be using the F word and being aggressive or nasty to people.

[sonyamanning]

Hi katty,
Actually, I had read your post. Good information like you said to "help prevent PID". What I've been discussing is curing it. Again how do you know that "peroxide or any other solution in the vagina whilst having PID is not the thing to do."?
I am not using a USED turkey baster. It is new, and I disinfect it with Hydrogen peroxide and hot hot water when I've use it. I don't know why you think this would add new bacteria? All vaginal bacterial medication insertions that you get from the store for infections are made from plastic. And most people don't even steralize those before they use them.
My infection did not "take hold" after use of this. I used it for the first time two days ago, and now my infection is almost non existant.
As for using the F word I am sorry about that.
As for the comment about being "aggressive or nasty to people" I honestly don't know what you mean. Could you quote a specific instance. Thanks,
Sonya

[sonyamanning]

Ok I have some revisions. (Katty I'm sure you'll be happy to hear about this). Turns out all the lingering pain/bloating I kept having after my initial bout with PID was BOWEL, and caused by all the antibiotics I'd been on. I'm still not knocking any of the alt. treatments I talked about because I think I still had some Bacterial Vaginosis (swollen Skene's/ Bartholin's glands..) which those things took away, as well as some how helping my bowel pain, but I don't think it cured my PID. I'll state it once again just in case anyone was using this as sole treatment (which I doubt they were)

Garlic etc.. in the vagina DID NOT CURE MY PID. :)

Good health to everyone.

What I don't get is why the doctors are so uninformed about PID, and why they don't inform us. When I had Chlamydia 3 years ago (asymptomatic) they didn't tell me about PID or my increased risk of getting an acute infection... Also it seems to them that if you are having sex with a partner that is uninfected with an STD you can't get PID from having sex with them?? Even if you've had acute PID in the past? From everyone elses stories, and from what I've read that doesn't seem to be correct?...Right?